AIM IM with joelhits1 9:44 AM joelhits1: Hi has the Playa Del Fuego happened yet? Kathleen Ellis: yes joelhits1: Oh well joelhits1: My buddy was supposed to check on it Kathleen Ellis: next one is mem. day weekend if all goes as planned Kathleen Ellis: ah Kathleen Ellis: it was a really good time 9:45 AM joelhits1: I'd prefer that day. I like warmth joelhits1: I'll bet it was. How many folks showed up? Kathleen Ellis: around 400 joelhits1: I guess the people are mostly from the balt/dc area joelhits1: I live in College Pk joelhits1: I've been to 5 burns in the Black Rock Desert, and always wind up meeting someone that we add to our group joelhits1: This year I came back from the burn with a resolve to make things happen financially when I came back so I can continue my jetsetting lifestyle...lol Kathleen Ellis: yeah i remember Kathleen Ellis: hows' that panning out? joelhits1: I came up with a business idea, and next wednesday when my cards, stationary, envelopes, etc arrive I'll be ready to start marketing the new biz Kathleen Ellis: cool joelhits1: I'm excited as hell. Here's the website www.seniorlifetransition.com 9:50 AM joelhits1: I'm just about to buy a very informative course on maximizing your efforts and money spent when using a google adwords campaign Kathleen Ellis: cool, so you're a medicare expert? joelhits1: No I wouldn't say that. I'm just a guy who wants to help himself while helping others joelhits1: It's a win win Kathleen Ellis: cool joelhits1: although the way medicaid is set up it screws the middle class joelhits1: What I'm providing won't take away all the bitterness, but it should help alot joelhits1: I don't want to take up your time as you're probably at work joelhits1: I'm curious though what area you're in Kathleen Ellis: immediate purchase of the home for 90% of it's tax assessed value? joelhits1: Yes Kathleen Ellis: huh joelhits1: what? joelhits1: expand Kathleen Ellis: well 9:55 AM Kathleen Ellis: i bought my house, and its tax assessed value is what i paid for it; that's how it goes in baltimore city -- $81,000 Kathleen Ellis: but the house was trashed and i'm putting a lot of work into it; when it's all fixed up the market value will be a lot higher than the tax assesed value Kathleen Ellis: wouldn't it be more fair to go by the market value? joelhits1: I'm curious what it is you do joelhits1: Hello? Kathleen Ellis: computer stuff Kathleen Ellis: did you do the flash on your site yourself? joelhits1: No my buddy did it joelhits1: I wrote all the copy joelhits1: I have no talent in that dept joelhits1: I think he did a good job on the website joelhits1: it's simple and easy to navigate Kathleen Ellis: yeah it looks really nice joelhits1: thank you 10:00 AM joelhits1: so you live in baltimore? Kathleen Ellis: yeps joelhits1: Are you goingt to Fells Point for Halloween? Kathleen Ellis: oh hm probably Kathleen Ellis: i don't have halloween plans yet joelhits1: I was going to go to Tampa for Guavaween, but decided to go to b-more which is always off the hook joelhits1: with the money i save on the flight I'll buy this course. It's a much more productive use of my dinero joelhits1: So you work from home? Kathleen Ellis: nah i commute Kathleen Ellis: what did you do before starting your business? 10:05 AM joelhits1: I worked for a buddy as a salesman doing insurance related construction work. It was the first time i made any real money in my life, and it was incredibly lucrative. The business ended due to a change in the insurance industry, and I've been trying not to go backwards ever since. With this new business I will propel my self forward again. Kathleen Ellis: ah neat joelhits1: I'm very goal oriented. I'm motivated by two things. With money I can live the lifestyle i want to lead, and I can help those in need. joelhits1: I'm speaking about friends and family mostly, but also sponsoring kids in other countries, etc joelhits1: Presently I'm sp[onsoring a little girl in the Phillipines, but I'd like to give her more Kathleen Ellis: that's sweet of you 10:10 AM joelhits1: well I always wanted to do it. joelhits1: and then I finally did joelhits1: It doesn't take much to make a difference in their lives when they're living in such poverty joelhits1: So do you go out much to hear live music? joelhits1: I'm looking to broaden my social horizons, and find more friends for activities Kathleen Ellis: oh sometimes i od Kathleen Ellis: hey you know rob carlson, right? Kathleen Ellis: the ticket guy from pdf Kathleen Ellis: he knows a LOT about getting into google joelhits1: I chatted with him for a while Kathleen Ellis: seriously put Rob Carlson into google, he's like hits #1-5 joelhits1: but I've never formally met him joelhits1: isn't he the artist? Kathleen Ellis: no he's a web guy Kathleen Ellis: he did the playa del fuego web site Kathleen Ellis: and he has a very popular blog and everything joelhits1: oh ok...he's got a site with a strange name right? Kathleen Ellis: getting google rankings is his area of expertise Kathleen Ellis: yeah epistolary.org 10:15 AM joelhits1: oh really? Kathleen Ellis: yeah i'm sure he wouldn't mind giving you a few tips joelhits1: I should speak with him b4 i buy this course Kathleen Ellis: yeah, you could skip the intro course after talking to him Kathleen Ellis: if he links to your site from his, that'll get you into the top ten all by itself Kathleen Ellis: he's got google-fu joelhits1: This conversation could be serrindipitous! Kathleen Ellis: heh yay joelhits1: how does he make his money being an authority on google campaigns? Does he also have a course? Kathleen Ellis: no it's a hobby Kathleen Ellis: he works for a company doing their web site, basically joelhits1: when you say if he links to my site that will get me into the top ten, what do you mean exactly? Kathleen Ellis: but he really enjoys what he does so the company benefits from his expertise in many ways Kathleen Ellis: he can probably explain it better than i could but joelhits1: under a general heading of Medicaid? Kathleen Ellis: i have the least interesting, least updated web site in the history of the web Kathleen Ellis: he links to it often and if you put "kathleen ellis" into google i'm #1 Kathleen Ellis: googles rankings go by certain criteria and he knows the ins and outs well enough to get higher rankings for himself & his friends joelhits1: I wonder if it would be ok to my buddy to contact him, and drop your name? My friend will be handling the google campaign. Whatever Rob tells me could be lost in transmission from myself to my friend Kathleen Ellis: oh yeah i'm sure it's fine Kathleen Ellis: he could go on all day about it Kathleen Ellis: and he and i are good frieends Kathleen Ellis: but you could say hi to him at least joelhits1: Excellent!! Thank you very much Kathleen Kathleen Ellis: no problem joelhits1: oh here's another site for you www.songsfromyoutoyours.com joelhits1: it's my custom songwriting site. Music's a big part of my life Kathleen Ellis: aw that's cool joelhits1: that's one reason i'm looking to expand my social network. I don't like going to shows by myself joelhits1: and my current friends are very flaky joelhits1: I missed out on 2 events this weekend becuase of their flakiness Kathleen Ellis: aw that sucks joelhits1: Yeah I know joelhits1: I don't have the vast social network I once had Kathleen Ellis: why is that? joelhits1: before i moved to Ca i had a huge network, and then while I was in bay area i had a huge network, but not since i moved back 7 years ago Kathleen Ellis: ah yeah those x-country moves can be somewhat disruptive joelhits1: because i'm not in college and i don't work out in a gym anymore. I work out at home. In Ca I met alot of friends in the gym 10:30 AM joelhits1: I mean I know plenty of peeps, but not plenty i can call on a whim to say hey there's this happening or that happening joelhits1: I don't know why it stops me becuae I'm personable and can meet new people anywhere I go joelhits1: I'm just not motivatedc to go out by myself unless it's to the funk box in bmore or the 930 club in dc joelhits1: please pardon my typing Kathleen Ellis: oh that's ok it's AIM joelhits1: I actually really do know punctuation and spelling...lol Kathleen Ellis: heh so do i joelhits1: You're so understanding! joelhits1: I never doubted it for a second joelhits1: Is that Rob's main site joelhits1: epistolary.org 10:35 AM Kathleen Ellis: yes joelhits1: i just googled him. There's plenty of info on him i see joelhits1: he's a singer songwriter? Kathleen Ellis: nah that's the other rob carlson Kathleen Ellis: heh that's rob's nemesis Kathleen Ellis: his google nemesis, that is joelhits1: ohh the imposter!!!!!1 joelhits1: Rob looks like a young guy Kathleen Ellis: yeah he's younger than i am 10:40 AM joelhits1: It's not a bad thing to be young. I tried it once joelhits1: but i didn't inhale Kathleen Ellis: hahaha Kathleen Ellis: that line will always make me laugh joelhits1: Hmm...a great conversationalist AND you have a sense of humor! joelhits1: Yeah what a goof ball joelhits1: mainly in the things he let slip Kathleen Ellis: heh Kathleen Ellis: like 'fool me once, shame on...on.. uh... shame on you. you fool me once you can't get fooled again.' Kathleen Ellis: oh that was the other guy actually, never mind joelhits1: Would you like to see a picture so you can match the typing to a face? It's always a curiosity of mine Kathleen Ellis: oh rob's got a bunch of pictures in his gallery joelhits1: and a play on words of of one of my favorite Who songs Kathleen Ellis: just put my name in the search thingy joelhits1: ok Kathleen Ellis: bahahah did you make up these "testimonials"? joelhits1: I had to, but they will be real soon enough. My buddy put in the testimonials link and said testimonials coming soon. That didn't sound right and to take the link out he said it wouold be a huge hassle or something like that Kathleen Ellis: ah joelhits1: like they're coming soon after we make some up or something joelhits1: you know they're fake because i told you i'm about to start thge biz Kathleen Ellis: yeah joelhits1: i think they sound authentic joelhits1: one person is using an abbreviation of my biz name, one uses no commas, etc 10:50 AM joelhits1: if only I could use my powers for good instead of evil...lol joelhits1: i haven't seen your pic yet, but are you also an artist or is that the other kathleen ellis? Kathleen Ellis: there are several others Kathleen Ellis: i'm not the jeweler, nor the unitarian universalist minister joelhits1: ok one sec and i'll send mine if you're interested in seeing what i look like joelhits1: lol 10:55 AM joelhits1: there's so much stuff i can't find a pic of you Kathleen Ellis: yeah that's what the search feature is for joelhits1: Joel's boat picture.jpg joelhits1: this was taken in oc, but thanks to adkins I'm in much better shape now joelhits1: did it go through? Kathleen Ellis: yeah Kathleen Ellis: do you go fishing and stuff like that? joelhits1: nope. I just go out on my buddies boats when I'm in oc or annapolis Kathleen Ellis: heh friends with boats are great joelhits1: I'd like to get into fishing, but i can't stand hooking the fish. They say it doesn't hurt thme, but i'm not convinced joelhits1: yeah they are joelhits1: was that you with the red hair with your back to the camera? Kathleen Ellis: criminy Kathleen Ellis: you are really having trouble with this "search" concept eh? joelhits1: what site should i be on. i just typed in the password to see your burning man pics Kathleen Ellis: http://vees.net/g2/search.html?string=kathleen+ellis joelhits1: wow i have to go exploring in Thurmont. It's beautiful, and not very far away Kathleen Ellis: sorry, i should have said about the photo gallery joelhits1: so now how do i know which one is you? joelhits1: are you the one with the goggles on? Kathleen Ellis: all of those are me, or have me in them Kathleen Ellis: yeah joelhits1: oh ok joelhits1: so the event took place in delaware right? 11:05 AM Kathleen Ellis: yep Kathleen Ellis: new castle county Kathleen Ellis: it's really quite lovely there, kind of like a swampy nebraska Kathleen Ellis: very flat joelhits1: Please count me in on the next event Kathleen Ellis: yay joelhits1: Is it time to go to the shanandoahs yet for the changing of the leaves? Kathleen Ellis: so are there a lot of these kinds of businesses, reselling undervalued property in exchange for medicaid advice? joelhits1: i keep missing it Kathleen Ellis: yeah def. in another week or so joelhits1: No I'm the first. Please keep it under your hat. joelhits1: It's extremely innovative joelhits1: Iand if you read the entire site i don't paint my cause as completely altruistic Kathleen Ellis: hey you know what you could do The person is not currently online. joelhits1: I'm a business man helping folks take make the best of a shitty situation joelhits1: I'm a business man helping folks take make the best of a shitty situation joelhits1: I'm a business man helping folks take make the best of a shitty situation joelhits1: I'm a business man helping folks take make the best of a shitty situation joelhits1: I'm a business man helping folks take make the best of a shitty situation joelhits1: I'm a business man helping folks take make the best of a shitty situation 11:10 AM joelhits1: m joelhits1: my screen was frozen...that was weird joelhits1: I'm just helping folks make the best of a crappy situation joelhits1: and earning a great living at the same time joelhits1: still there? Kathleen Ellis: whoa yeah Kathleen Ellis: sorry i was having trouble with my AIM client too joelhits1: that was strange joelhits1: it wouldn't send Kathleen Ellis: yeah same here..seems ok now tho Kathleen Ellis: anyway joelhits1: yep it seems to be workng fine Kathleen Ellis: you could probably work another angle of this once you get started; recruit some agents with some knowledge of how to move the clients in and get them what they need Kathleen Ellis: then you move the property yourself and give your agents a percentage Kathleen Ellis: then have those agents recruit other agents and give them bonuses for doing so Kathleen Ellis: the training on the medicaid stuff would probably be pretty basic, and you could charge for that as well Kathleen Ellis: because they'd be able to see how easy the money would be made back Kathleen Ellis: before i was in computers i was a stage hand Kathleen Ellis: and this big company had a reallllly fancy event at our facility joelhits1: Yep I'm really excited. Come next wednesday or thursday I'm becoming a marketing machine Kathleen Ellis: excel communications or something like that Kathleen Ellis: they must have been rolling in cash Kathleen Ellis: and the people who paid to attend the training were there at $250/ea joelhits1: when you roll in cash at least you don't get hurt cause the cash provides padding! Kathleen Ellis: the agents sold long distance service, and recruited other agents to be under them Kathleen Ellis: and got bonuses for recruiting joelhits1: hmmm interesting joelhits1: There's going to be some angles to work I'm sure, and there's so many ways to market it Kathleen Ellis: at the end of the show all these new converts were trying to recruit me .. i was working the sound board joelhits1: I'm going to have to focus Kathleen Ellis: i had to say "no thanks" like 100 times Kathleen Ellis: but that's just because i'm not the sales type and i know it joelhits1: and not try to do too many things at once Kathleen Ellis: more of a salary gal Kathleen Ellis: oh yeah Kathleen Ellis: well this is clearly something for down the road Kathleen Ellis: the problem with these guys was they were all on the bottom rung Kathleen Ellis: the guys at the top of the scheme were clearly the winners joelhits1: I'm definitely a sales guy. I mean I want to earn what I'm worth, but there is something to say for knowing what you're going to earn at the end of the year. It's a secure feeling Kathleen Ellis: i've got a house and a lot of hobbies Kathleen Ellis: don't like to have work occupy my brain much joelhits1: Everyone's different, and that's what makes life interesting. Well my dear I've got to get something to eat, and determine how to be productive today Kathleen Ellis: ok enjoy! joelhits1: I've definitely enjoyed chatting joelhits1: have a fabulous day! Kathleen Ellis: you too!